Page 17 Valtorta's Jesus = V's Jesus: "God is the centre of the heart of the flower of love, so love for Him is the first to be had. Around His centre there is the love for our parents, the second to be had, because father and mother are really the little "God" on the earth, as they procreated us and cooperated with God to our creation." CRITIQUE: POEM OF THE MAN-GOD
MEDJUGORJE'S GOSPEL
Maria Valtorta, 1897-1961
Volume III
Page 21 V's Jesus: "Many do not get what they ask for, because they pray by themselves."
Page 21 Valtorta's dream: Peter is thoughtful. Jesus notices it and asks him why.
Comment: Valtorta's Jesus does not know why Peter is thoughtful. You will notice that Valtorta's Jesus asks many questions, yet he tells us "he" is God. Vol III, page 351: Valtorta's Jesus: "I know everything!" Vol IV page 758: Valtorta's Jesus: "You can see that I am not asking you questions. I am speaking because I know, without having to ask."Page 30 V's Jesus: "What name shall I give them? You apostles, you disciples, the believers will be called 'Christians'. And those? What name will they have? A name known only in Heaven. What reward will they receive from the earth? My kiss. My voice, the warmth of My body. "
Comment: Followers of Jesus were called Christians for the first time in Antioch, by St. Paul.Page 33 V's Jesus: "Why are you pressing round Me? Tell Me. You have well known rabbis, who are well liked by everybody. I am the Unknown and Disliked One. So why do you come to Me?"
Page 36 V's Jesus: "Listen to this parable and forgive Me if My lesson is too long."
Page 42 "Why Lord?"
V's Jesus: "The Temple is more sensitive than a pregnant wife. As long as I can, and not out of cowardice, I do not want to collide with it."
Page 45 Valtorta's dream: They move away a few yards. V's Stephen blushing says: "I must give You a piece of advice. Master. Forgive me. . ."
V's Jesus: "If it is good, I will accept it. Tell Me."
V's Jesus: "Is Syntyche not here?"
V's Stephen: "She is with Sarah, Marcella and Naomi laying the tables."
Page 57 Valtorta's Lazarus: "I will come at once. Master. Where are we going?"
V's Jesus: "Into the country. I need to be all alone with you. I only wish to seek advice from you and not even the air must be aware of what we shall say."
Page 59 V's Jesus: "Can you advise Me where to send them? I do not want them to stay in Judea or in Galilee and not even in the Decapolis, where I go with My apostles and disciples. Nor in the heathen world. So, where? Where, so that they may be safe and useful?"
Valtorta's Lazarus: "Master, how can I give You advice?"
V's Jesus: "No, tell Me."
Valtorta's Lazarus: "I would advise You to send them where I have friends. To Cyprus or to Syria. Make Your choice."
V's Jesus: "I beg you, not even the air is to be aware of this. You can see that yourself. They are spying upon Me."
Page 60 V's Jesus: "I need many women disciples to conceal Syntyche amongst them."
Page 62 V's dream: Peter approaches Him and embracing with his right arm Jesus' waist saying:
"How happy I am to be with You without. Admit it! You are happy. You know what I mean."
Page 77 V's Jesus: "I am the Lord your God, you shall have no gods except Me. You shall keep the Sabbath according to the commandment of God and to the needs of the human body."
Page 79 Valtorta's Jesus: "The measure in Heaven is not the same which is used on earth. My Mother will be blessed not so much because of Her immaculate soul, as for listening to the word of God and practicing it through obedience. It was a prodigy of the Creator 'that Mary's soul was immaculate'. He is to be praised for that, but the let what you have said be done to Me' is a prodigy of My Mother. Her merit therefore is great. So great that the Savior of the world came only because of Her capability of listening to God, speaking through Gabriel's lips, and because of Her will to practise the word of God, without weighing the difficulties and the immediate and future sorrows connected with Her assent."
Page 84 V's Jesus: "Original sin is common to everybody, whether one is from Israel or not. It is not a peculiarity of heathens. The pagan cult will be sinful after the Law of Christ has been spread through the world."
Page 92 V's Jesus: "Once the soul Is formed, it is stained by original sin. To make it clearer for you I will say that it is as if God were pregnant with the soul which He creates and the creature, in being born, were wounded by an indelible mark. Do you understand Me?"
Page 9U V's Jesus: "We must pray at night - but this applies only to adults - to make amends for the sins of the night, to keep satan away from weak people, and that culprits may ponder, repent and make good resolutions which will become facts at sunrise."
Page 98 V's Jesus: "Tell Me the truth, man. Forgive if blood made one of My disciples furious. Who are those four and what did they say?"
Page 114 V's Jesus: "Fear is never constructive. It shakes, shatters, throws into disorder, it crushes. Fear leads to depair, it leads to crafty concealment of evil-doing, it makes one fear when fear is useless, because evil is already within us." [Including the person speaking?]
Comment: Fear is the beginning of wisdom!Page 128, V's Jesus: "Tell Me: where are you from?"
"From the plain of Esdraelon."
V's Jesus: "Have you come so far?"
"Yes, sir."
V's Jesus: "Has your mother been dead long? Have you no father?"
"My father died killed by sunstroke, my mother died last month, the baby she was giving birth to died with her."
V's Jesus: "Have you no relatives?"
"We come from so far! We were not poor. My father worked as a servant. He is now dead and mother with him."
V's Jesus: "Who was his master?"
"Ishmael, the Pharisee"
V's Jesus: "Ishmael, the Pharisee."
Valtorta's dream: It is not possible to describe how Jesus repeats that name.
V's Jesus: "Did you come away of your own will, or did he send you away?"
"He sent me away, sir. He said: 'The street is the place for starving dogs'."
Page 140 V's dream: A Pharisee calls Jesus to ask Him whether He was aware of Daniel's disease.
V's Jesus: "I came from Endor by mere chance, as I wanted to please Judas as I had pleased John. I did know I would be passing through Nain when I set out on our Passover pilgrimage."
Page 150 Valtorta's Thomas: "Are You staying at Capernaum?"
V's Jesus: "I am not yet sure where I will be staying. Here or there it is the same to Me providing My Mother is with Me."
Page 186 V's Jesus: "I am going to tell him. It will be easier with Syntyche. Mother, go to Marjiam, wake him up and pray while I speak to that man. I feel as if I had to rummage in his bowels."
THE THIRD YEAR OF THE PUBLIC LIFE
Page 216 V's Jesus: "Pray for Me. I will need your prayers. They will help Me, that I may not go to the extent of saying: 'The whole of Mankind is made of demons.'
"Kiss Me goodbye, John. I would have kept you with Me, at the cost of tearing bits of flesh ofl My body, had I not seen all the good that this separation will bring about both for you and for Me. Goodbye, Syntyche. Yes you may kiss My hands, but bear in mind that, if the difference of sex prevents Me from kissing you as a sister, I give My brotherly kiss to your soul."
Page 219 V's Jesus: "Father, this hour is much more sorrowful than the one I lived with Your spirit and Mine in the desert. . . Much stronger is the present temptation not to love and not to bear at My side the slimy tortuous being, whose name is Judas."
Page 120 V'sJesus: "Father, the traitor who sold himself to satan will come and he, the perjurer, will be more and more tortuous and slimy."
Page 221 Valtorta's dream: Jesus has slowly fallen on His knees and is now weeping with His face on the ground, and while He prays the light of the short winter day fades precociously."
Page 268 V'sJesus: "I have suffered very much. My dear friends, as you have seen yourselves. With My suffering I paid for John's and Syntyche's peace. Do not let My suffering be useless. Do not overburden My shoulders with another weight. I have already so many. Their weight becomes heavier day by day, hour by hour."
Page 274 V's Jesus: "Are the children of the Creator lost, exiled, apostates, guilty, speaking languages different from ours, do they believe in faiths which we loathe, are they corrupted by marrying heathens? Yes? Their souls came from One God, and they are always the same, even if they are the cause of grief to the God Father, they are still souls created by Him. Souls of sinners are always souls of God, equal to our own.
"Remember, you people of Israel, that there is no one, not even the idolater most remote from God because of his idolatrous religion, not even the most pagan of pagans or the most atheistic man, who is completely devoid of some trace of his origin. Remember, you who have gone wrong, in getting detached from our just Religion by descending to mixing sexes, which is condemned by our Religion, that even if you think that everything that was Israel is now dead in you, suffocated by the love for a man of different faith and race, it is not dead. It is your duty to assist the mislaid sister charitably, so that she may find her way back to the Father. This is the new holy Law, agreeable to the Lord: that the followers of the Redeemer may redeem whoever is to be redeemed, so that God may smile because of the souls that go back to the Father's House and the sacrifice of the Redeemer may not be made unfruitful and mean.
"To leaven dough the housewife takes a little of the dough of the previous week. Oh! only a tiny bit of the whole mass! She buries it in the dough, and protects it from harmful draughts in the favourable [sic] warmth of the house. Do likewise yourselves, you followers of God, and you, too, who have gone away from the Father and from His Kingdom. Let the former give a tiny part of their yeast to support and reinforce the latter, who will add it to the particle of justice still existing in them. Both of you, protect the new yeast from the hostile draughts of evil in the warmth of Charity, according to what it is in you: your mistress, or a persistent, although now languishing survivor. Support with the warmth of your homes with the faith of the religion what is fermenting in the heart of a mislaid co-religionist, so that she may feel that she is still loved, she is still a daughter of Zion and a sister of yours, and her. good will may materialize and the Kingdom of Heaven may come to all souls."
Page 277 Valtorta's dream: Alexandroscene is more a military than a civil town. It must be of strategic importance, but I do not know why.
Pages 285, 286 V's Jesus: "To do Good is God in Rome, in Athens, in Gaul, in Africa, because the moral law exist under every sky, in every religion and in every righteous heart. Religions, from that of God to that of individual morals, say that our better part survives and its destiny in the next life will be according to how it acted on the earth.
"His bounty is such, that from the moment you say: 1 want to belong to the Truth' that is, to God, because God is Truth, God through an entirely spiritual miracle, infuses Wisdom into you, whereby from being ignorant you become possessors of the supernatural Science, like those who have possessed it for years.
"I am the Lord your God. You shall have no gods except Me. Remember to sanctify feast days. The Sabbath is sacred to the Lord. You shall not covet your neighbour's house; you shall not covet his wife, his servant, man or woman, his ox, donkey, or anything that belongs to him."
Page 307 V's Jesus: "What is worrying you, Bart? Are you not coming to be embraced by your Master? Philip, why are you so timid? If I did not know that you are two honest people, in whose hearts no wickedness can dwell, I should suspect that you are guilty. It is not so. Come, therefore! I was waiting to receive your kisses and see the limpid look of your faithful eyes."
Pages 319, 320 Valtorta's dream: Jesus speaks calmly, in a natural tone. Yet there must be something in Him that upsets Judas, who changes colour for a moment. Jesus embraces him as if He wanted to kiss him. While His cheek is against Judas', He whispers to him in a low voice: You wretch! What have you done with your soul?"
V's Judas: "Master!"
V's Jesus: "Go away! You stink of hell more than satan himself! Be quiet! Repent, if you can."
V's Judas: "Why, Lord, did You say those words to me?"
V's Jesus: "Because it is the truth. Who deals with satan, smells like satan."
V's Judas: "Have You really seen the sin in my heart?"
V's Jesus: "It disgusted Me. Go away! Say no more."
Page 321 V's Jesus: "Are you familiar with the road?"
"This is the road, but we do not know where the house is, because it is farther inland. Perhaps it is over there, where those olive-trees are."
V's Jesus: "Peace to you, little girl."
Little Girl: "Peace to You. What do You want?"
V's Jesus: "Some information. Where is the house of Ishmael, the Pharisee?"
Little Girl: "You are on the wrong road."
Page 323 V's Jesus: "I love also sinners, woman. I came to save those who are lost, I will not punish you, but do not do it again. Love also wicked people."
Comment: Was V's Jesus loving Judas, a wicked man, when he said: "You stink of hell more than satan himself"?page324 V's Jesus: "No, woman. Keep the horse fresh to come to Ishmael's house. Just show Me the shortest road."
Page 331 V's Ishmael: "Master, I want to please You. I will take those children again."
V's Jesus: "No, you will not."
V's Ishmael: "Why?"
V's Jesus: "Ishmaell?!"
Valtorta's dream: Ishmael lowers his head. He wants to appear humble, but he is a viper deprived of its poison and does not bite because it knows it has none, but waits for the opportunity to bite. Comment: We poor mortals cannot read minds and judge, but Valtorta has that faculty!
Page 324 Valtorta's dream: Jesus wards off possible questions by saying: "Are you two happy to come to Nazareth with Me?" and He lays His arms round the shoulders of Peter and Thomas.
Page 335 Valtorta's dream: [Valtorta's] Mary is silent and weeps. Only after a third question, she whispers: "Because I am terrified, I would like Judas to leave You. It is a sin, is it not, to wish that? I am so much afraid of him for You."
V's Jesus: "Things would change only if he disappeared dying, but why should he die?"
V's Mary: "I am not so bad as to wish that. He has a mother as well! A soul which may still be saved. Would death perhaps not be a good thing for him?"
V's Jesus: "Death would be a good thing for many people."
Page 344 V's Jesus: "Korazirn is the tree that does not bear fruit. I am the Good Farmer. You are the impatient rich man. Leave it to the Good Farmer."
Pages 344, 345 V's Judas: "It is because of You that I no longer have power. You took it off me to increase it in John, Simon, James, in everybody, except me. You do not love me, that's what it is! I will end up by not loving You and by cursing the hour when I did not love You and I ruined myself in the eyes of the world for the cowardly king, who is overwhelmed even by the populace. I was not expecting this from You."
V's Jesus: "Neither I from you. I have never deceived you. I have never forced you. Why do you remain with Me?"
V's Judas: "Because I love You. I cannot part with You. You attract me and You disgust me. I desire You as much as I desire air to breathe. You fnghten me. I am cursed! I am damned! Why do You not drive the demon out of me, since You can?"
V's Jesus: "Because there is no repentance in you, but only hatred against God, as if He were guilty of your sin."
Valtorta's dream: Judas utters a horrible curse between his teeth.
Page 351 V's Jesus: "Judas, I will wait. I can wait. I will pray. I will take the place of your disgusted angel, while waiting. My pity, patience and love are perfect and therefore greater than the pity, patience and love of angels, and I can remain beside you in the disgusting stench of what is fermenting in your heart, in order to help you."
V's Judas: "Do you really know what I have done?"
V's Jesus: "I know everything. Do you want Me to tell you or shall I spare you this humiliation?"
V's Judas: "I cannot believe it."
Page 355 V's Jesus: "God knows your hearts and is struck with horror at them. He has always been horrified at them as He has always rejoiced at the just for whose sake it was just to send Me and who really drew Me from the depths [Heights?] of Heaven, that I might bring Living Water for thirst of men. I am the Source of eternal Life. You do not wish to drink at it. You will die."
Page 362 V's Jesus: "I could fulfill the judgement of God to the very end, by saving all the children of Israel, but I will not be able because the impious will triumph against themselves, against their own better part."
Valtorta's dream: Jesus is near the head of the synagogue and other people of the synagogue; I do not know whether they are his sons or assistants.
Page374 V's Jesus half seriously: "Leave the poor old woman alone! She is good and a believer. Her heart is as generous as her tongue."
V's John: "Master, the old woman is so generous that she is heroic" laughing heartily.
Valtorta's Peter: "Be quiet, boy, or you will be like that old hen."
Page 377 V's Jesus: "Tell Me, children without malice, which is My sign for you?"
Children: "That You are so handsome as no other man can be."
Page 378 V's Jesus: "May this kiss increase in you the light of your intellect."
V's dream: They explain to Jesus that the child's mother suffers from throat trouble and wanted a miracle, but the disciples were unable to cure her disease as it was too deep and untouchable.
V's Jesus: "The youngest disciple, her little boy, will cure her."
Comment: The little boy has smaller arms to reach down her throat to cure her!Page 387 V's Jesus: "My body, flesh, and blood will suffer, to make amends for the sins of the flesh and of the blood."
Page 405 V's Mary: "Why did You do that to Me, Son? The secrets of the King are sacred."
V's Jesus: "The King can reveal them whenever He wishes. Mother, I did it, so that the words of the Prophet may be understood: "A Woman will enclose the Man in Herself and the words of the other Prophet: 'The Virgin will conceive and give birth to a Son'."
Comment: There is nothing prophetic about: "A woman will enclose the man in herself, or 'the Virgin will conceive and give birth to a Son". "A Virgin shall be with Child, giving birth to a Son!" Only Holy Mary was a Virgin with Child. All other mothers were formerly virgins, therefore these statements by V's Jesus are lies from satan, the great liar!Page 408 Valtorta's dream: Jesus is now standing, I would say that He is raised off the ground because between Him and the green meadow there is something like a luminous vapour, [sic] a space consisting only of a light upon which He seems to be standing, but it is so bright that I may be wrong, and the fact that I no longer see any green grass under Jesus's feet may be due to the bright light that vibrates and waves, as is often seen in bonfires. It is a snow-white incandescent light. Jesus is looking at the sky and smiling at a vision that enraptures Him.
Page 415 V's Jesus: "We shall be equal in our work, in our grief, in our glory. Here I am the Master and the Example. ["l am Master!" No equality here!] There I shall be the Reward and the King. To have Me will be your blessedness. It will mean forgetting sorrow. It will be what no revelation is yet sufficient to make you understand, because the joy of the future life is by far superior to the possibility of imagination of a human creature still joined to a human body."
Page 422 V's Jesus: "A man confessed his many sins. A nauseating chain of sins."
Valtorta's Bartholomew: "You are smiling. Master!"
V's Jesus: "Yes, Bartholmew. I am smiling because his sins no longer exist, and because with his sins I learned also the name of his redeemer. The apostle was a woman in this case. "
"Your Mother? Johanna of Chuza?"
V's Jesus: "Mary of Lazarus."
Valtorta's Bartholomew: "Did she come here? Why did she not come to see any of us?"
V's Jesus: "She did not come. She wrote to her old partner in sin. I read her letters. They all supplicate him for one thing: to listen to her, to redeem himself, as she redeemed herself, to follow her in Virtue, as he had followed her in sin."
Page 424 V's Jesus: "Simon, there will be many people who will mistrust Me, also among those who think that their faith in Me is safe and unshakable. Do not judge your brothers. Always judge yourself first."
Page 434 V's Jesus: "You must praise and be grateful to Him Who sent Me, not to Me."
Pages 440, 441 V's Jesus: "The gifts of God are not common ordinary things. You are souls! That is what you are! Your body is the garment, your being is the soul. It is the soul that lasts. Your body, like every garment, wears out and comes to an end and it is not worth taking care of it, as if it were something perfect deserving every care."
V's Jesus: "We know the laws of Rome, but no faithful Israelite puts them into practise, except in those specific cases when he is compelled to do so as a subject."
Comment: Our Lord Jesus: "Render unto Ceasar, things which belong to Ceasar!"Page 442 V's Jesus: "This is what I have come to teach you and to give you: the juice the air of the Law and of the Prophets, to give blood and breath back to your souls dying from inanition and asphyxia. It is your duty, therefore, to come to Me to receive the air and juice of eternal Life."
Page 443 V's Jesus: "Rise and praise Him before the rising sun does."
Page 444 V's Jesus: "I am the Bread of Life. You will find it in Me. Its name is Jesus."
Page 445 V's Jesus: "I can give Myself. I can transubstantiate for the sake of men, so that the bread may become Flesh and the Flesh may become Bread, for the spiritual hunger of men, who without that Food would die of starvation and spiritual diseases. If one eats this Bread with justice, one will live for ever."
Page 451 Valtorta's dream: There is a stranger in a corner, a strong man whom no one notices and to whom no one speaks. He does not speak to anybody. He stares at Jesus, so much so that the Master turns His eyes towards him and asks Jairus who he is.
Jairus: "I do not know."
V's Jesus: "Who are you?"
"Nicolaus, a proselyte from Antioch. I am going to Jerusalem for Passover."
V's Jesus: "Whom are you looking for?"
Nicolaus: "For You, Lord, Jesus of Nazareth."
Page 454 "Do You suspect him. Lord?"
V's Jesus: "I suspect no one. I solemnly tell you that the apostle Judas of Simon, an Israelite and Judaean, will never go as far as Nicolaus, a disciple and proselyte."
Page 454 V's Jesus: "You know the shortest road to Gadara, do you not?"
"Of course I do."
Page 456, V's Jesus: "Be quiet. You are like quarrelsome women. You are all wrong. I am ashamed of you."
Pages 460, 461 Valtorta's dream: V's Jesus: "Now that this contemplation has cleansed us. let us pray." He stands up and John does likewise. A long, silent, pressing prayer, said with all their souls, their arms stretched out crosswise, with their faces raised towards the east, where the first pale hint of moonlight appears. The "Our Father" was said together, slowly, not once but three times, with increasing insistence in asking.
Jesus lays His arm on John's shoulder.
V's Jesus: "Tell Me what you feel you must tell Me. What has My John seen, with the assistance of spiritual light, in the gloomy soul of his companion [Judas]?"
Valtorta's John: "I will grieve You revealing what You do not know."
V's Jesus: "Cling to that idea, John. It is not a sin to confide what you know to Him Who is 'Everything'."
Comment: Valtorta's Jesus is "Everything", but does not know everything'.Page 462 Valtorta's John: "Yes, it is Master" who has taken his habitual posture with his arm round the Master's neck and his head reclined on His shoulder.
V's Jesus: "John, your charity and your angel cleanse you. There is nothing left on you. You are a clean altar on which God descends. What else does Judas do?"
Page 467 V's Jesus: "If you have illegitimate children from your concubine, it is your duty to put an end to the scandal by marrying, if you are free."
V's Jesus: "Cursed is he who, after repudiating his wife and abandoning her to the dangers of life, which compel her to get married again to have her daily bread, takes her back when she becomes a widow of her second husband. Because although she is a widow, she was an adulteress through your fault and you would redouble her adultery. Have you understood, Pharisees, who are tempting Me?"
Page 482 People: "We will abduct You, if You do not come."
V's Jesus: "You shall not raise one hand against Me. That is idolatry."
Comment: Definition: idolatry: worship of a physical object as a god.Page 490 Valtorta's dream: The Zealot, on whose chest Jesus' head is resting, bends to kiss His hair saying: "We love You so much!"
Page 504 V's John: "Master, how shall we manage to go and come back in time?"
V's Jesus: "I do not know. I trust in God. If we are late, it will not be My fault."
Page 516 Valtorta's dream: Jesus is walking tranquilly in His best clothes. Like everybody else He has changed in order to enter the holy city decently, and I would say, elegantly dressed.
Page 519 V's Jesus: "Let us pray: Our Father, Who are in Heaven, may Your Name be held holy by all mankind! ..." [Different!]
Page 529 V's Jesus: "Peace to you, brother of Bethlehem. Of what disease did I cure you?"
Page 539 Valtorta's dream: The women disciples kiss one another lovingly.
Page 541 V's Jesus to Peter: "You are an awful bore! You are worse than a boy!"
Page 559 V's Jesus: "God does not give gifts to blockheads. He loves them, because they are unhappy, but He does not give them what they could not appreciate."
Comment: Only blockheads do not appreciate gifts?Page 565 V's Jesus: "May God bless you, Esther!"
Page 572 Valtorta's dream: "Master, here are heathen women disciples."
Page 575 V's Jesus: "Yes, I am a king, but not of this kingdom. It is too trivial for Me! Also the Empire is too trivial."
Page 581 V's Jesus: "From now on I will speak less, because I see that words are useless or almost useless. You have made little progress, you brother-men particularly, because you like My words but you do not practise them."
Comment: The gospa of Medjugorje is saying the same words. Now I know where gospa is getting "her" text.Page 616 V's Jesus: "Tell them that in the name of the True God I consecrate them to their condemnation and as a new Michael I drive them out of Paradise. It is not necessary for them to die to be judged. They are already judged, with no forgiveness."
Page 619 "Master, is anybody else coming, besides Your disciples?"
V's Jesus: "I am not sure, as yet, but you can prepare for five more people in addition to the apostles."
Page 620 V's Jesus: "If the Father did not delight in contemplating the Most Beautiful Lady Who changes the Earth into a paradise, if Paradise in future should not have the living Lily in Whose bosom are the three pistils of fire of the Divine Trinity, the light, perfume and harmony, which are the delight of Paradise, would be halved. [sic]"
Page 621 V's Jesus: "Forget useless things. Imitate your sister. Mary has chosen the better part, which will never be taken from her. When all virtues become superfluous, because they are no longer necessary to the citizens of the Kingdom, Charity alone will remain."
Comment: Purity will not remain in Heaven?Page 642 V's Jesus: "The perfect Mine has fixed according to its own perfect plan, the number of those who will be worthy of Heaven. All others strive In vain to become so. It cannot be otherwise. He who wants to save himself, but its not written so, will only commit sin even unawares, because his damnation is fated."
Comment: We are not predestined for Heaven or hell: damnation is not fated! Heresy!F.J.L. Comment: It is De Fide Dogma (which must be believed by all Catholics) that:Page 651 "Who will comfort You? Who will let You die still hopeful?"
God, by an Eternal Resolve of His Will, predestines certain men, on account of their foreseen sins, to eternal rejection.
Note: Eternal rejection "on account of their foreseen sins" - NOT on account of any desire for salvation striven for in vain!!!
It is also noteworthy that the Church has NEVER declared any particular person to be in Hell, for THAT judgement belongs entirely to God.
V's Jesus: "The love of My disciples and particularly of My women disciples."
Page 654 Prostitute to Valtorta's Jesus: "Oh, handsome one among those born of woman! For a kiss of Your lips, I give all myself without payment!"
Page 655 V's Jesus: "A soul knows, at least vaguely, how much time it has been given."
Page 685 Valtorta's dream: The buildings are tall, most of them being two storey [sic] houses, with vine-clad roof terraces, giving shade and delightful grapes, which must be as sweet as raisins, when they fully ripen in the golden sun and the reflected heat of the walls and terrace floors. The vines compete in giving comfort to men and the many birds, from sparrows to doves which nest in Engedi, with the magnificent opulent fruit-trees, which have come up in yards, in house gardens, and peep out over little lanes, hanging down white walls with their branches already laden with fruit ripening in the bright sun, reaching down below the numerous archivolts, which in some parts really form tunnels, interrupted here and there for architectonic reasons, and they rise towards the blue sky, a sky so uniform and mellow, that if it could be touched, it would be like touching thick velvet or smooth leather, painted and dyed by a cunning craftsman with that perfect, beautiful, unforgettable hue, which is darker than a turquoise and lighter than a sapphire.
Comment: satan assisted Vattorta with her dream!Page 690 V's Jesus: "Who can believe does not err."
Comment: I believe! I have erred. I know I have erred! I have sinnedPage 713 V's Jesus to Anne: "Judas thinks that he will become one of My ministers. Death instead is awaiting him. You shall not tell anybody that. Never. His mother is not to know until everything has been accomplished."
Anne: "I swear to it in the name of my Johanna." [A secret?]
Paqe 718 V's Jesus: "The glory of Heaven will flood you. You will suck it, [it?] carried at His breast and you will be fondled in His lap. Yes, as a mother caresses her child, as I am fondling this little boy, whom I gave My name, so I will console you who love Me."
Page 721 V's Jesus: "Do you not believe Me? Your love is preventing you from believing. Love IS a great thing! A great strength, a great danger'. Yes, danger." [Love is a great danger?]
Page 729 V's Jesus: "All right. Let us go and see your roseries. " [sic]
Page 731 V's Jesus: "What happened? Something of which I am unaware, which could upset you so much as to dim in you the pellucidity of My moral and spiritual figure. Tell Me!"
Page 733 V's Jesus: "Neither Judas' hatred nor his love can change what is written in Heaven."
Comment: We mortals are not programed robots, nor are we predestined to Heaven or hell.Page 746 Valtorta's dream: Jesus comes out of the grotto and looks [to see if any person is watching?]. He then washes in the stream. He tidies Himself, puts on His clothes.
Comment: Valtorta was permitted to see Jesus tidy Himself and put on clothing?Page 750 V's Jesus: "Go and tell them that I will speak at sunset near the gate of Emmaus. The sun prevents Me now."
Page 764 V's Jesus: "Judas, you will be the king of the banquet. You will really be so. You will be the Bride of the Groom."
Comment: Judas will be king and Bride at the banquet?Page 765 Valtorta's dream: Jesus kisses Judas' closed eyelids, his lips and then his heart, bending His head to look for the heart of His disciple.
F.J.L. Comment: And THAT is AFTER saying to Judas:Page 770 V's Jesus: "I will unlock the doors of Hell, I will open the doors of your Hades and of My Limbo."
- Page 319/20: "Go away! You stink of hell more than satan himself! Be quiet! Repent, if you can."
Who deals with satan, smells like satan."
"It [Judas' sin] disgusted Me. Go away! Say no more."- Page 344/45: "Why do you remain with Me?"
[Judas says:] I am cursed! I am damned! Why do You not drive the demon out of me, since You can?"
"Because there is no repentance in you, but only hatred against God, as if He were guilty of your sin."
Valtorta's Jesus then talks of "the disgusting stench of what is fermenting in your heart..."
V's Jesus: "I know everything. Do you want Me to tell you or shall I spare you this humiliation?"
Page 788 V's Jesus: "Tell her to forgive you because God's forgiveness will be given to you only if she invokes it for you and she is the first to give you it."
Comment: According to Valtorta's Jesus, forgiveness from God can only be obtain after the forgiveness of persons we have offended!Page 798 V's Jesus: "May this wheat nourish your soul more than your body."
Page 803 Valtorta's dream: Jesus bends and kisses Simon Peter's hair.
Page 811 V's Jesus: "I doubt only what I do not know. I do know the thoughts of men."
Page 816 Valtorta's dream: He lifts His right hand from the table and begins unintentionally to gesticulate with it.
Page 823 V's Jesus: "I am not dubious of you. I know. You will know Me better. I am not telling you to love Me, because I know your hearts. I say only: pray for me."
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