My Reasons

F. John Loughnan's Files On

The Society Of St Pius X (SSPX)

My Reasons For Withdrawing Support From The Society Of St Pius X
"All these (pre Pope John XXIII) Popes have resisted the union of the Church with the revolution; it is an adulterous union and from such a union only bastards can come. The rite of the new mass is a bastard rite, the sacraments are bastard sacraments. We no longer know if they are sacraments which give grace or do not give it. The priests coming out of the seminaries are bastard priests, who do not know what they are. They are unaware that they are made to go up to the altar, to offer the sacrifice of Our Lord Jesus Christ and to give Jesus Christ to souls." "An Open Letter To Confused Catholics", by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.

Bits and pieces from a 136 page document sent to SSPX Bishop Fellay, and to Archbishop Pell of Melbourne.

Was Vatican Council II Voided by Pope Pius II's 'Execrabilis'?
Certain traditionalists have "hung their hats" on Pius II's Execrabilis as being proof positive that Vatican Council II, (because "it was called to introduce drastic change into the Church"), is automatically and beforehand declared to be null and void...According to one: "In 1460 Pope Pius II issued a Papal Bull "Execrabilis." This Bull was infallible and relates specifically to Faith and Morals - nor can it be revoked or annulled. In effect, the Bull pronounced that a Council may not be used to re-open Judgements. Once the Church has made a Judgement, it cannot be questioned by Councils or future Popes. "Execrabilis" states that if any Council goes against this Bull, all such Councils, no matter in what age they are called-pronounces, declares and decrees all such Councils-condemned, reproved, quashed and annulled, and, ipso facto, all who participate have incurred anathema. No wonder there is a Divine Interdict over all the earth.', says he!

Is The Society of St Pius X In Schism? Rome's Reply Of 27 October 1998 Declares: YES!
"The Pope is the supreme legislator in the Church. In an Apostolic Letter which he issued motu proprio (on his own initiative) he declared that Mons. Lefebvre and the priests Bernard Fellay, Bernard Tissier de Mallerais, Richard Williamson and Alfonso de Galarreta, have incurred the grave penalty of excommunication envisaged by ecclesiastical law. (Cf. Code of Canon Law, can. 1382)...While the priests of the Society of St. Pius X are validly ordained, they are also suspended a divinis..While it is true that participation in the Mass at the chapels of the Society of St. Pius X does not of itself constitute "formal adherence to the schism", such adherence can come about over a period of time as one slowly imbibes a schismatic mentality which separates itself from the teaching of the Supreme Pontiff and the entire Catholic Church classically exemplified in A Rome and Econe Handbook..." Mgr Camille Perl.

The Flat Earth Society and SSPX Type 'Traditionalists'
Many Catholics who love sacred tradition and who abhor the abuses which have so often characterized the immediate post-conciliar era have had at one time or another to wrestle with the response of the Society of St. Pius X and similar groups to this crisis. The piety and liturgical correctness of the SSPX proved a potent seduction. But, as the Greek schism showed, we may have all piety and beautiful liturgy, even martyrs who pour out their blood for Christ, but if we stray from the dogmatic certainties and parameters of the Church, schism remains schism. We do not doubt anyone's good intentions, but where Church dogma and the Promises of Christ to His visible Church until the end of time are concerned (Mt. 28:20) , good intentions, piety, and liturgical perfection are not sufficient. When we wash away from the Rock who is Peter we descend into a labyrinth of errors, exaggeration and imbalance. It took many of us a long time to see our way clear through these issues. But a veritable army of laymen and priests has left and are leaving those ranks. We pray that many more will see their way clear to safer ground and begin fighting the real fight today---- against the Culture of Death." Stephen Hand, Traditional Catholic Resources Note.

An Opinion On Allegations Regarding The Pope Receiving The 'Mark of Shiva' and His Semi-naked Mass in Papua New Guinea
"Your article was very interesting. The Mark of Shiva slander is incredibly ridiculous, and I have been trying to stamp it out ever since I went to India in 1996 and received something like the Tilak at a school in a slum I was helping to rebuild from one of the schoolgirls. It was just about as far from any Pagan worship as you could get - it was simply a form of greeting. Real Pagan worship was seen somewhat later on another day just outside the slum. A procession of these depraved pagans was passing by with all the shouting, crying out, and whirling dances that one might expect from idolators when confronted with their idol. These sort of slanders can only come about from those westerners who are simply in the grossest ignorance of other cultures." Andy Byler.

"A fine article. Yes, we should give the Pope every benefit of the doubt. We would give our own natural father as much; why not our spiritual father?" [Franciscan] Bro Alexis Bugnolo.

An Open Letter To Confused 'traditionalists'
"In the interests of elucidating what a genuine "traditional" theology means, TCR continues its analysis of the Society of St. Pius X, convinced that any theology which attributes serious error or heresy to the magisterium is---by definition---outside the parameters of Catholic doctrine, whether they be drum-beating liberals or High Mass SSPX'ers. The Society of St. Pius X prints books with pictures of the Pope peering like a demon (Cf. their Johannes Dormann books). The theology behind such schemes must be scrutinized. Many of us had to learn the hard way. We wish to make it easier for others. John Loughnan has done the Church an important service." Stephen Hand, Traditional Catholic Resources Note.

The Anything BUT Consistent Mind Of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre!

Ecclesiastical Documents on the Schism and Excommunication
of the SSPX - Extracts

Ecclesiastical Documents on the Schism and Excommunication
of the SSPX - The Documents in Full - all in one place.

Are 'traditionalists' being too hard on the pope re: Islam?

On Allegations Re: The 'Mark of Shiva', and New Guinea Mass

Some Radical Traditionalist Falacies Examined

The Flat Earth Society & SSPX Type 'Traditionalists'

Extract from pp.105-109 The Kingship of Christ and The Conversion
of The Jewish Nation by Rev. Denis Fahey, C.S.Sp., D.D., D.Ph., B.A.

Defences of the Mass of Pope Paul VI

"Donald Duck" Thucite "Bishops"

Lists of "catholics" not in union with Pope John Paul II

Oh What A Tangled Web (some fringe dissidents) weave... - Footnote 5 UPDATED Jan 1, 2002